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    Traction Control Light Stays On - Golf mk4

    Hi all,
    I'm a newbie so please be gentle!
    I have a 2001 VW Golf GT TDi, 130 with a PD engine which I have had for 5 years without any major problems. Recently the traction control light has been coming on after 10 minutes of the engine being run and it stays on until the engine is turned off, then it clears and comes back on again after 10 minutes.
    Within the 10 minutes after start up I can press the ASR button and the light comes on (indicating that traction control has been switched off?).
    There are no other lights on the dash, no problems with the drive, no loss of power etc.
    I've had it plugged into VAGCOM (or something like it) at my local indy and it is coming up with an engine fault code - the mech has said that he'll need to take the ECU out and send it away to get fixed which won't be cheap - but I've been looking it up and I'm thinking that this is only a common problem with cars a few years newer than mine.
    Can anyone shine any light on this for me please? I'm stumped, don't want to have the ECU sent away for it not to be that, don't particularly want to take it into my local dealership as they're a bit of a rip off.
    Any help much appreciated.
    Thanks

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    Re: Traction Control Light Stays On - Golf mk4

    What is the fault code number?
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    Re: Traction Control Light Stays On - Golf mk4

    It's coming up with Engine Control Module 01314

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    Re: Traction Control Light Stays On - Golf mk4

    Which version of 01314?

    01314 - Engine Control Module: No Communications

    Possible Causes

    CAN-Databus Wiring/Connectors from/to Engine Control Module faulty
    Fault(s) stored in Engine Control Module
    Engine Control Module recently flashed or re-mapped

    Possible Solutions

    Check CAN-Databus Wiring/Connectors from/to Engine Control Module
    Check Measuring Value Blocks (MVB)
    Usually Measuring Value Blocks (MVB) 125+ show the current Communication Status

    01314 - Engine Control Module: Check DTC Memory

    Possible Causes

    Fault(s) stored in Engine Control Module

    Possible Solutions

    Check Engine Control Module for Fault Codes

    Special Notes

    The ECU has stored a Code which influences other control modules. To clear this fault code you will need to correct the problem in the ECU first.
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    1988 Golf 2 GTI 16 valve, 2.2 with Weber Alpha injection
    1983 Golf 1 GTI 8 valve, 2 litre with Eurospec racing 42/36 head
    1972 1302LS auto 1641cc conversion

    Vile Invention

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    ECU error code and traction Control Light

    Hi guys,

    I have the exact same problem. The CAN scan revealed 01314 ECU module, check DCT memory. I think the ECU has a prior fault code stored which needs to be cleared first? I did another scan and it showed 17664, engine coolant temp sensor (the problem was solved some while ago - just not cleared the code). I take it I will see the real problem once I'll have cleared the original code?

    Thanks.

    Alex
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crasher View Post
    Which version of 01314?

    01314 - Engine Control Module: No Communications

    Possible Causes

    CAN-Databus Wiring/Connectors from/to Engine Control Module faulty
    Fault(s) stored in Engine Control Module
    Engine Control Module recently flashed or re-mapped

    Possible Solutions

    Check CAN-Databus Wiring/Connectors from/to Engine Control Module
    Check Measuring Value Blocks (MVB)
    Usually Measuring Value Blocks (MVB) 125+ show the current Communication Status

    01314 - Engine Control Module: Check DTC Memory

    Possible Causes

    Fault(s) stored in Engine Control Module

    Possible Solutions

    Check Engine Control Module for Fault Codes

    Special Notes

    The ECU has stored a Code which influences other control modules. To clear this fault code you will need to correct the problem in the ECU first.

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    Welcome to the forum Alex.

    VAG Error Code: 17664
    EOBD II Error Code: P1256

    Fault Location:
    Engine Coolant Temperature (ECT) Sensor (G62) - Open Circuit/Short to Positive

    Possible Cause:
    Difficulties with starting a cold engine.
    Diesel: an indication is extreme long time burning time of the glow indication light.
    Starting the engine when engine is warmish or warm, idle rpm immediately is 1200 - 3000 rpm.
    RPM at idle is irregular.
    With all engine temperatures seldom idle rpm will vary between 900 - 1000 rpm.
    With engine warm (90 C) the engine temperature suddenly drops (70 C) and slowly comes back to 90 C.
    Bad acceleration during warming up.

    Wiring and/or connections faulty.
    Engine Coolant Temperature Sensor (G62) faulty.

    Possible Solutions:
    Check wiring and connections.
    Check / Replace Engine Coolant Temperature Sensor (G62).

    Special Notes:
    In MY 1995-2002 (?) in Europe at VW-cars the G2/G62 had the bad reputation of breaking down often. The default G2/G62 is black and all replacements are green.

    As taken from my EOBD II Fault Codes Software

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    Options Sticker and Engine Codes
    Last edited by Keithuk; 10-01-13 at 20:46.
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    Thanks for the reply, Keithuk!

    I was on the wrong track altogether it seems. Temp sensor needs replacing then; heard somewhere that's quite common.

    I doubt that this will reveal the problem with the traction control light though..? Could it be the break light switch?

    2003 Golf, SDI, MK4, 5 doors, white

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    I have not seen a coolant temp sender bring on the engine MIL
    2003 Skoda Octavia VRS Estate. APR 98RON remap, APR R1 diverter valve, Jetex exhaust, K&N panel filter, 8x18 Wolfrace Pro-Lite eco 2.0 wheels with 225/40 18 Uniroyal Rainsport 3 tyres.
    2006 Polo GTI 1.8T, APR 95RON remap
    1988 Golf 2 GTI 16 valve, 2.2 with Weber Alpha injection
    1983 Golf 1 GTI 8 valve, 2 litre with Eurospec racing 42/36 head
    1972 1302LS auto 1641cc conversion

    Vile Invention

    Dark was that day when Diesel conceived his grim engine that begot you, vile invention, more vicious, more criminal than the camera even, metallic monstrosity, bale and bane of our culture, chief woe of our Commonweal. How dare the Law prohibit hashish and heroin yet license your use, who inflate all weak inferior egos? Their addicts only do harm to their own lives: you poison the lungs of the innocent, your din dithers the peaceful, and on choked roads hundreds must daily die by chance-medley. Nimble technicians, surely you should hang your heads in shame. Your wit works mighty wonders, has landed men on the Moon, replaced brains by computers, and can smithy a "smart" bomb. It is a crying scandal that you cannot take the time or be bothered to build us, what sanity knows we need, an odorless and noiseless staid little electric brougham.

    W.H. Auden (1907-1973), A Curse:

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    Angry Traction Control Light Stays on follow up

    Quote Originally Posted by Crasher View Post
    I have not seen a coolant temp sender bring on the engine MIL
    Hi guys,

    Crasher, it seems these are two totally unrelated problems, sorry for confusion.

    I have spent quite some time on this now. Changed brake light switch, coolant temp sensor and cleared fault codes. The code for the temp sensor has disappeared. But I have a new code for the alternator now. Since it wasn't the brake light switch, could it be the alternator? I read somewhere that if the traction light comes on after about 10 min or so (which mine does), it might be faulty wiring from or to the alternator?

    This is starting to do my head in...

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    Can you post the new codes that you've found?
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