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    Doors central locking , electric windows, boot problems

    Hi All,


    I've grouped these things together because a mechanic I've visited suggested they could all be related.


    Anyway, here's the problems.


    1) Central Locking, - not all of the doors unlock when using the keyfob, some do some dont, it's not always the same doors that dont unlock, however it does seem to be limited to tht e rear passenger doors that dont unlock. When they do fail, they can remain in this condition for weeks until one day, they release and start to work again. I've now resorted to locking/unlocking the car with the key in the drivers or passenger doors. This seems to prevent the problem from reoccurring. Also, and this may be related, if I do lock the doors with the keyfob, this also activates the alarm, which currently would start to sound after about 2-3 minutes of activation. So I can no longer put the alarm on.


    2) Electric windows, the passenger side electric window stopped working, then it started again for no apparent reason. Then suddenly all of the windows failed to function in any way, and they are now stuck like this, we cant wind them up or down from the drivers door switches or any of the other individual door switches. With no air conditioning journeys are pretty unbearable in this current heat we're experiencing, particularly with a 2yr old son in the back!


    3) Boot problems - the hatchgback boot because stuck, the central locking fob wouldn't open it, neither would the key, the key wouldn't turn. So the mechanic deactivated the solenoid (?) in the boot switch, now it is permanently unlocked, but at least we can use it. With the obvious risk of a theft, no al;arm and a boot permanently unlocked.


    Well thats all, a pretty comprehensive failure somewhere, but what could it be? The mechanic thinks it might be the central locking unit, but he doesn't know for certain and he cant guarantee it'll fix the problems if he purchase one and does all the work to replace it. Since it's quite an old car he's encouraging me to purchase a new one, (not from him incidentally) as this is nearing the end of it's life. But family circumstances have changed recently and at a time of financial uncertainty I'm reluctant to purchase anything new when this could potentially be fixed.


    I'm hoping someone might have an idea as to what might be the problem here and whats involved in getting a fix.


    Thanks in advance.

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    When you say "key fob", do you mean the remote control or the key in the door?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crasher View Post
    When you say "key fob", do you mean the remote control or the key in the door?
    Yeah the remote control.

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    So no-one has any suggestions as to what this might be? Fair enough, so could anyone suggest somewhere else I could ask, another VW forum perhaps, or a VW specialist in Birmingham.

    Cheers

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    Well no UK spec Golf 3 EVER had remote control central locking control from the factory so whatever you have is an aftermarket system so do you know what make it is and who fitted it?
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    2006 Polo GTI 1.8T, APR 95RON remap
    1988 Golf 2 GTI 16 valve, 2.2 with Weber Alpha injection
    1983 Golf 1 GTI 8 valve, 2 litre with Eurospec racing 42/36 head
    1972 1302LS auto 1641cc conversion

    Vile Invention

    Dark was that day when Diesel conceived his grim engine that begot you, vile invention, more vicious, more criminal than the camera even, metallic monstrosity, bale and bane of our culture, chief woe of our Commonweal. How dare the Law prohibit hashish and heroin yet license your use, who inflate all weak inferior egos? Their addicts only do harm to their own lives: you poison the lungs of the innocent, your din dithers the peaceful, and on choked roads hundreds must daily die by chance-medley. Nimble technicians, surely you should hang your heads in shame. Your wit works mighty wonders, has landed men on the Moon, replaced brains by computers, and can smithy a "smart" bomb. It is a crying scandal that you cannot take the time or be bothered to build us, what sanity knows we need, an odorless and noiseless staid little electric brougham.

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    Can I suggest that you add your car spec to your signature as it will save users asking every time, if you know the engine code that will also be great? Oh you can't do this of a phone. Adding your car spec

    Data Sticker/Options Sticker and Engine Codes
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keithuk View Post
    Welcome to the forum John.

    Can I suggest that you add your car spec to your signature as it will save users asking every time, if you know the engine code that will also be great? Oh you can't do this of a phone. Adding your car spec

    Data Sticker/Options Sticker and Engine Codes
    Ok, if you think it will help I'll locate this information.

    Crasher - I had no idea that this wasn't standard equipment, I purchased the car 2nd hand and was not informed. Apologies for my ignorance.

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    I've added all of the info to my signature as requested. And here is a photo of the options sticker.Click image for larger version. 

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    Ok so lets Ignore all of the issues with my aftermarket central locking system because I have no idea what has been fitted and obviously without this info we really cant progress.

    Perhaps someone might have an idea why none of the windows would wind up or down. Surely the mechanism for this would be factory fitted since there are no additional manual winders. The drivers door has a main control panel to operate all of the windows while each of the other doors have their own control button.

    Any suggestions as to what might be faulty here, or what I could test?

    Help appreciated.

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    Update.

    I took the car to a local VW/Audi specialist in Birmingham and they ran some diagnostics to discover that the problem with the electric windows was caused by a faulty 10 amp fuse behind the fascia.

    So there we have it. As long as I dont set the alarm using the remote everything is fine.

    Hope this update helps someone else.
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    Transmission code: DQY
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    Quote Originally Posted by johntyb View Post
    Ok, if you think it will help I'll locate this information
    Your car is not a Golf 3, from the data sticker I can see it is a type 1J1 244 so it is a very early Golf 4 and so the central locking system is the original, I would not have told you it wasn't otherwise. Now you can see the point of Keith nagging people about their cars info. I will move this thread to the correct section.
    2003 Skoda Octavia VRS Estate. APR 98RON remap, APR R1 diverter valve, Jetex exhaust, K&N panel filter, 7.5x18 Alutec Monstr wheels with 225/40 18 Uniroyal Rainsport 3 tyres.
    2006 Polo GTI 1.8T, APR 95RON remap
    1988 Golf 2 GTI 16 valve, 2.2 with Weber Alpha injection
    1983 Golf 1 GTI 8 valve, 2 litre with Eurospec racing 42/36 head
    1972 1302LS auto 1641cc conversion

    Vile Invention

    Dark was that day when Diesel conceived his grim engine that begot you, vile invention, more vicious, more criminal than the camera even, metallic monstrosity, bale and bane of our culture, chief woe of our Commonweal. How dare the Law prohibit hashish and heroin yet license your use, who inflate all weak inferior egos? Their addicts only do harm to their own lives: you poison the lungs of the innocent, your din dithers the peaceful, and on choked roads hundreds must daily die by chance-medley. Nimble technicians, surely you should hang your heads in shame. Your wit works mighty wonders, has landed men on the Moon, replaced brains by computers, and can smithy a "smart" bomb. It is a crying scandal that you cannot take the time or be bothered to build us, what sanity knows we need, an odorless and noiseless staid little electric brougham.

    W.H. Auden (1907-1973), A Curse:

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