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    Starting issues 1.4 TSi

    Hi,

    I have a 2010 Golf 6 1.4 TSi (non supercharged). After 8 years of trouble-free use, it's developed a problem starting. The engine turns over fine and briefly fires before shutting off. The local VW dealership say it's a battery problem but I'm struggling to believe that since the battery is fairly new (changed 2 years ago by a local and trusted independent) and there are no issues turning the engine over. Anyone got any ideas? It's almost as if the ECU is deciding to shut down the engine even before it's started.

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    Paul
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    First posts normally go in introductions else you could get a free fix and we never see you again!!!

    Your car spec says 0, only what I've added from this post.

    Get your battery and starter motor system checked out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keithuk View Post
    First posts normally go in introductions else you could get a free fix and we never see you again!!!

    Your car spec says 0, only what I've added from this post.

    Get your battery and starter motor system checked out.
    I appreciate the reply. Sorry for not following forum etiquette. I'm on a number of other car forums (BMW f31 and TT) and contribute lots so I'm not expecting a free ride. I'm just perplexed so thought I'd post and see if anyone has seen anything similar. I've had the car from new and am endlessly impressed by it - an amazing car for the money. Eight years and 72k with not a single issue (until the starting problem!).

    Strangely, despite the engine turning over just fine, I put the battery on charge and it started charging at 5A, so maybe it's the battery after all. However, the battery has failed before and on that occasion it was so dead that the engine wouldn't turn over at all on the starter. Maybe it's just different failure modes. Complicated things modern cars...
    Last edited by pdk42; 04-12-18 at 23:42.
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    Well, it appears it was the battery. I put it on charge a few times and it always started at high charge (5A or more) and never dropped below 1A. I bought a new Bosch battery and all is now well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pdk42 View Post
    Well, it appears it was the battery. I put it on charge a few times and it always started at high charge (5A or more) and never dropped below 1A. I bought a new Bosch battery and all is now well.
    Who would have thought it would be the battery, apart from the excellent dealership it seems....
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    Quote Originally Posted by lemta View Post
    Who would have thought it would be the battery, apart from the excellent dealership it seems....
    Well, I've been around cars and their maintenance since I was a nipper in the 1970s so I've seen a few flat batteries in my time. Apart from this occasion, a dead battery has always manifested itself in being unable to turn the engine over. That wasn't the issue here - the engine turned over fast enough and apparently started only to die a half second later. There was the smell of burned fuel too. That and the comparative youth of the battery is why I didn't believe it.

    But... I was wrong. Live and learn.
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    You need to get your motor scanned (preferably with VAG-COM\VCDS) for any error codes logged in the ecu and post them, that will save a lot of guessing and check systems out.
    2010 Golf GTD (170) CBBB, 5 Door, Shadow Blue (P6/D5Q), Transmission Code: KXZ, Flat Tyre Indicator, Basic Protection Pack + VCDS.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Keithuk View Post
    You need to get your motor scanned (preferably with VAG-COM\VCDS) for any error codes logged in the ecu and post them, that will save a lot of guessing and check systems out.
    I actually have a copy of VCDS that I use with my TT. Good idea, thanks.
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    As I have said elsewhere, modern types seem to get phased by weak batteries, even mechanics, sorry, “Technicians”.....
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