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    Obd reader, but which one?

    Hello everybody,

    I have realised I need a reader to allow me to monitor my vehicle errors and manage functions. I have spent some hours reading forums and researching products. These are the options: (correct if I am wrong!!!)

    1) MIL OBDII readers. very cheap, about 5, and easy to use with your smartphone but only monitor the engine light computers so very limited functionality and no customisation of functions
    2) the proper kit: VCDS VAG-COM reader from ROSS-TECH. Gives you all functions and access to all on board computers but expensive (min 250 but the dongle is 500) and perhaps difficult to use. Although apparently customer support is great
    3) CARISTA. This is a dongle that cost 15 and gives you access to the majority of functions and error messages. Only problem is that you get only one month subscription to the full functionality or 40 for one year....still reasonable and seems easy to use via smartphone
    4) Cables not from ROSS-TECH. I know fake products are not to be discussed here and anyway the 10 one will not work with Touareg 2. These cheap cable are apparently the K version but for Touareg we need the "dual k & CAN version". I had a Ebay seller offering me a genuine product (cable plus software) for 60 but do not understand what genuine means. Is ROSS-TECH the only company that can sell these cables and related software. Are all the other ones illegal fakes?
    HAVE YOU GOT ANY EXPERIENCE ON THIS TO SHARE?

    I am tempted to get the carista since will allow me to check all error messages and do the majority of customisation at a reasonable cost.
    My customisation priority are:
    - reset service message (does not work via centre console)
    - set up the left mirror to dip when reversing
    - activate the advanced green menu (to access advanced functions through the centre console)
    - perhaps have the start and stop set up OFF as standard and reverse the light functionality.
    - investigate turning off the radio filter. when off apparently the sound is much better and similar to the upgraded sound system
    HAVE YOU GOT ANY ADDITIONAL SUGGESTION FOR THE CAR SET UP?
    2016 Yeti 4Motion 2.0 TDI-CR
    2015 Touareg R-Line 3.0 TDI-CR
    2011 Touran BlueMotion Technology SE 1.6 TDI-CR CAYC
    1999 Golf 4Motion 1.9 TDI, AGR, SOLD

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    There is only one company that sell genuine VCDS cables Ross-Tech but they aren't cheap. As the new cables have 3, 10, unlimited VINS.

    All cables on fleabay are cheap Chinese cloned cables and those are Banned subjects
    2010 Golf GTD (170) CBBB, 5 Door, Shadow Blue (P6/D5Q), Transmission Code: KXZ, Flat Tyre Indicator, Basic Protection Pack + VCDS.


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    Humble Mechanic appeared really impressed with OBDeleven:



    I have a genuine VCDS cable but it's such a faff to run cable from laptop to diagnostic port, I'm seriously thinking of purchasing OBDeleven; it's coupled via Bluetooth to any android device which makes it portable. It appears more convenient when viewing live data.
    Suggest checking Ross-Tech Diagnostic Procedures to make sure your vehicle is covered otherwise you'll be required to use Advance Measuring Values; Meas_Blocks appear more informative. You'll find lots of videos on Youtube using Meas_Blocks but not Advance Measuring Values.

    Another reason for me considering an OBDeleven is that my Polo doesn't have any indication of engine temperature and it's not available on MFI.

    I haven't yet decided to sell my VCDS cable ...
    Last edited by Brian7NS; 05-12-18 at 10:10.
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    I bought the Carista. Super easy to use but you need to call customer service since the standard app is not compatible with Touareg T2!!! you will get a beta version

    The reader is 15.99+ shipping but the functionality is a bit expensive. with the reader you get 3 minutes of changes and the weekly pass at 10 gives you only a few minutes too. So for extensive usage not the best option.

    Although there are not that many things to change:
    - reset service (mine did not work via infotainment system)
    - change start and stop functionality (I have mine remembering the last state)
    - passenger mirror dip when reversing (quite useless since it dip only very little and the angle cannot be changed)
    - activate green menu

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    If you want help from VAG orientated people you need to use VCDS, VCP or ODIS, otherwise you risk having your results treated with suspicion.
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    Thank you crasher. For now carista is more than enough for me. I probably will be fine with the VCDS which is the way to do a proper job (I could change the service schedule to Long life service. Asked my dealer to do this but did not happened!). Carista has less functionality but is really easy and intuitive to use so recommended if you just want to scan for errors or change some of the basic set up.
    2016 Yeti 4Motion 2.0 TDI-CR
    2015 Touareg R-Line 3.0 TDI-CR
    2011 Touran BlueMotion Technology SE 1.6 TDI-CR CAYC
    1999 Golf 4Motion 1.9 TDI, AGR, SOLD

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