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    2004 Beetle Cabriolet problem

    Hi guys I have been out to refit the radio in the wife's beetle and tried to start it and Immobilizer light is flashing! Plugged my obd reader in and it's coming up with 01176 key faulty, also read some data and took pics of but don't know how to attach lol.... Any help greatly appreciated. Russ

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    Is this ODB reader a generic scanner?

    Connecting a radio shouldn't bring the immobilizer light on in the dash. Is this radio an OEM or aftermarket?

    VAG Error Code: 01176

    Fault Location:
    Key - Unauthorized - Signal too Low

    Possible Cause:
    Malfunction Indicator Lamp (MIL)(K83) active.

    Immobilizer:
    Wiring and/or Connector(s) from/to Immobilizer Reader Coil faulty.
    Immobilizer Reader Coil faulty.
    Immobilizer Transponder in Key faulty OR incorrect Transponder in Key.
    Remote Control
    Remote Control Battery low.
    Remote Control faulty OR incorrect Remote Control used.

    Possible Solutions:
    Immobilizer:
    Check Wiring and/or Connector(s) from/to Immobilizer Reader Coil.
    Check Key Immobilizer Transponder Status.
    Read Measuring Value Blocks (MVB).
    Check/Renew Immobilizer Key Matching.
    Check/Replace Key.
    Remote Control:
    Check/Replace Remote Control Battery.
    Check/Replace Remote Control.

    Special Notes:
    If found on a New Beetle, can be caused by the Insulation Displacement Crimp (IDC) terminals that are used for the reader coil at T32a/2 and T32a/17 (green connector) that result in poor contact. This can degrade the signal from the key.
    This Fault Code can be stored in due to Remote Control or Immobilizer Problems. On most Models these systems are separate and should therefor also be diagnosed separately.
    In case of Engine Starting Issues please make sure that you are really experiencing an Immobilizer related Problem! On most models using conventional keys, the Engine will still start but cut out after 1-3 Seconds if an Immobilizer related Problem is the cause. On models using Kessy Systems and Electronic Keys, most systems in the car won't power up at all if its an Immobilizer related Problem is the cause. If you are NOT experiencing this behaviour (e.g. Instrument Cluster powers up, and engine cranks but doesn't fire at all or engine won't crank) this is likely NOT Immobilizer related.
    When found in Audi A3 (8L), Audi A4 (8D), Audi A6 (4B) or Audi A8 (4D), check Wiring from Immobilizer Control Module to Immobilizer Reader Coil. A known issue would be the Length of the Wiring, an optimized Replacement Part may be available (8D0-972-275).
    May be stored in Combination with 17978/P1570/005488 - Engine Start Blocked by Immobilizer in Engine Control Module.


    VAG Error Code: 01176

    Fault Location:
    Key - Signal too Low/No Signal/Communication

    Possible Cause:
    Malfunction Indicator Lamp (MIL)(K83) active.

    Immobilizer:
    Wiring/Connector(s) from/to Immobilizer Reader Coil faulty.
    Immobilizer Reader Coil faulty.
    Immobilizer Transponder in Key faulty or incorrect Transponder in Key.

    Remote Control:
    Remote Control Battery low.
    Remote Control faulty or incorrect Remote Control used.

    Possible Solutions:
    Immobilizer:
    Check/Replace Wiring/Connector(s) from/to Immobilizer Reader Coil.
    Check Key Immobilizer Transponder Status.
    Read Measuring Value Blocks (MVB).
    Check/Renew Immobilizer Key Matching.

    Remote Control:
    Check/Replace Key Remote Control Battery.
    Check/Replace Remote Control.

    Special Notes:
    If found on a New Beetle, can be caused by the Insulation Displacement Crimp (IDC) terminals that are used for the reader coil at T32a/2 and T32a/17 (green connector) that result in poor contact. This can degrade the signal from the key.
    This Fault Code can be stored in due to Remote Control or Immobilizer Problems. On most Models these systems are separate and should therefore also be diagnosed separately.
    In case of Engine Starting Issues please make sure that you are really experiencing an Immobilizer related Problem! On most models using conventional keys, the Engine will still start but cut out after 1-3 Seconds if an Immobilizer related Problem is the cause. On models using Kessy Systems and Electronic Keys, most systems in the car won't power up at all if an Immobilizer related Problem is the cause. If you are NOT experiencing this behaviour (e.g. Instrument Cluster powers up, and engine cranks but doesn't fire at all or engine won't crank) this is likely NOT Immobilizer related.
    When found in Audi A3 (8L), Audi A4 (8D), Audi A6 (4B) or Audi A8 (4D), check Wiring from Immobilizer Control Module to Immobilizer Reader Coil. A known issue would be the Length of the Wiring, an optimized Replacement Part may be available (8D0-972-275).
    May be stored in Combination with 17978/P1570/005488 - Engine Start Blocked by Immobilizer in Engine Control Module (ECM).

    As taken from my new EOBD II Fault Codes Software

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keithuk View Post
    Is this ODB reader a generic scanner?

    Connecting a radio shouldn't bring the immobilizer light on in the dash. Is this radio an OEM or aftermarket?

    VAG Error Code: 01176

    Fault Location:
    Key - Unauthorized - Signal too Low

    Possible Cause:
    Malfunction Indicator Lamp (MIL)(K83) active.

    Immobilizer:
    Wiring and/or Connector(s) from/to Immobilizer Reader Coil faulty.
    Immobilizer Reader Coil faulty.
    Immobilizer Transponder in Key faulty OR incorrect Transponder in Key.
    Remote Control
    Remote Control Battery low.
    Remote Control faulty OR incorrect Remote Control used.

    Possible Solutions:
    Immobilizer:
    Check Wiring and/or Connector(s) from/to Immobilizer Reader Coil.
    Check Key Immobilizer Transponder Status.
    Read Measuring Value Blocks (MVB).
    Check/Renew Immobilizer Key Matching.
    Check/Replace Key.
    Remote Control:
    Check/Replace Remote Control Battery.
    Check/Replace Remote Control.

    Special Notes:
    If found on a New Beetle, can be caused by the Insulation Displacement Crimp (IDC) terminals that are used for the reader coil at T32a/2 and T32a/17 (green connector) that result in poor contact. This can degrade the signal from the key.
    This Fault Code can be stored in due to Remote Control or Immobilizer Problems. On most Models these systems are separate and should therefor also be diagnosed separately.
    In case of Engine Starting Issues please make sure that you are really experiencing an Immobilizer related Problem! On most models using conventional keys, the Engine will still start but cut out after 1-3 Seconds if an Immobilizer related Problem is the cause. On models using Kessy Systems and Electronic Keys, most systems in the car won't power up at all if its an Immobilizer related Problem is the cause. If you are NOT experiencing this behaviour (e.g. Instrument Cluster powers up, and engine cranks but doesn't fire at all or engine won't crank) this is likely NOT Immobilizer related.
    When found in Audi A3 (8L), Audi A4 (8D), Audi A6 (4B) or Audi A8 (4D), check Wiring from Immobilizer Control Module to Immobilizer Reader Coil. A known issue would be the Length of the Wiring, an optimized Replacement Part may be available (8D0-972-275).
    May be stored in Combination with 17978/P1570/005488 - Engine Start Blocked by Immobilizer in Engine Control Module.


    VAG Error Code: 01176

    Fault Location:
    Key - Signal too Low/No Signal/Communication

    Possible Cause:
    Malfunction Indicator Lamp (MIL)(K83) active.

    Immobilizer:
    Wiring/Connector(s) from/to Immobilizer Reader Coil faulty.
    Immobilizer Reader Coil faulty.
    Immobilizer Transponder in Key faulty or incorrect Transponder in Key.

    Remote Control:
    Remote Control Battery low.
    Remote Control faulty or incorrect Remote Control used.

    Possible Solutions:
    Immobilizer:
    Check/Replace Wiring/Connector(s) from/to Immobilizer Reader Coil.
    Check Key Immobilizer Transponder Status.
    Read Measuring Value Blocks (MVB).
    Check/Renew Immobilizer Key Matching.

    Remote Control:
    Check/Replace Key Remote Control Battery.
    Check/Replace Remote Control.

    Special Notes:
    If found on a New Beetle, can be caused by the Insulation Displacement Crimp (IDC) terminals that are used for the reader coil at T32a/2 and T32a/17 (green connector) that result in poor contact. This can degrade the signal from the key.
    This Fault Code can be stored in due to Remote Control or Immobilizer Problems. On most Models these systems are separate and should therefore also be diagnosed separately.
    In case of Engine Starting Issues please make sure that you are really experiencing an Immobilizer related Problem! On most models using conventional keys, the Engine will still start but cut out after 1-3 Seconds if an Immobilizer related Problem is the cause. On models using Kessy Systems and Electronic Keys, most systems in the car won't power up at all if an Immobilizer related Problem is the cause. If you are NOT experiencing this behaviour (e.g. Instrument Cluster powers up, and engine cranks but doesn't fire at all or engine won't crank) this is likely NOT Immobilizer related.
    When found in Audi A3 (8L), Audi A4 (8D), Audi A6 (4B) or Audi A8 (4D), check Wiring from Immobilizer Control Module to Immobilizer Reader Coil. A known issue would be the Length of the Wiring, an optimized Replacement Part may be available (8D0-972-275).
    May be stored in Combination with 17978/P1570/005488 - Engine Start Blocked by Immobilizer in Engine Control Module (ECM).

    As taken from my new EOBD II Fault Codes Software

    Post moved to correct section.

    You can add pictures to a post as an attachment providing they aren't too big. Or you can upload them to the many free sites and post the link. I use http://tinypic.com/
    Thanks for the info, no was just putting the oe radio back in, was sat with ignition on for about 15 mins when I started the car it ran for a couple of seconds then died. My reader is a low end tablet with a program installed. I have a snap on coming later so I can see fully what is wrong
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    Snap Off won't be any more help, do you have a spare key?
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    hi yes we have both keys
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    hi everyone i have had a chat with the chap who removed the radio and he said he had had a couple of fuses out (one being the immobiliser) i think he may have had the ignition on while the fuses were out (the d$%^) would this cause the keys to lose code? i have a friend who has vag com but is there anything i will need to code the keys in?
    thanks in advance
    Russ
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