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    Polo fails MOT on emissions CO2 @ 3 years old

    2016 Polo 1.2 Bluemotion (petrol). 30,000 miles. Full dealer service history. I've had the car for 6 months.

    First MOT due and car just (1 month) out of warranty. I'm attaching results.

    Took to local independent garage for MOT and it failed. CO2 reading 0.63%. Maximum allowed 0.20%. They told me that car of this age and mileage should not have these readings - something is wrong with it they think. My suspicions that fuel economy not what it should be for this engine are roused!

    Service also due at same time so it then goes to local VW dealer for diagnostics to see what's wrong. They come back and report 0.19% CO2 and say nothing wrong. Everything checks out okay and no warnings.

    Seems to drive smoother/quieter after the service so I wonder if they did something in addition to the oil change. Firmware of somesuch?

    So, back to independent for re-test of emissions. Still high. See attached.

    So my question here is what to do?

    - take to another independent for 3rd opinion
    - are VW trying to avoid having to contribute goodwill for anything that really needs fixing - as said it's just out of warranty?
    - is 0.19% actually okay for a three year old engine of this type and the independent garage doesn't know that?
    - if i get it passed via VW will I run into issues when next MOT due - does it get worse?
    - take it up with Driver & Vehical Standards Agency?

    Thanks in advance for any wisdom here!

    Dave

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    First posts normally go in introductions else you could get a free fix and we never see you again!!!

    You need to get your motor scanned (preferably with VAG-COM\VCDS) for any error codes logged in the ecu and post them, that will save a lot of guessing and check systems out.
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    Definitely something wrong; 0.19 is a bad result even for a much, much older car.

    MOT doesn't test CO2 though.
    It's CO, carbon monoxide, that is being measured.

    Our 14 year old Skoda Fabia got better numbers than even VW's 'questionable' measurements of yours, at its last test at 165000 miles a month or two back.

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    It could benefit from an Italian tune....
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    It wouldnít surprise me if VW were playing fast and loose with those figures. Find out what the CO specs for the engine are and ask them to hit the target. My wifeís polo has recently been idling rough and the engine light has been coming on for short periods before going out - but only at idle! I expect the CO is high than itís supposed to be and Iím suspecting the lambda sensor is either coated in silicon from poor quality fuel additives, the sensor is faulty or it just needs a clean. Iíll take it in to let them have a look when itís convenient for me.

    How does the car idle?
    Last edited by VeeDub; 01-05-19 at 03:57.

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