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    Engine starts and then stops after 3 seconds

    Hi, wonder if anybody can help please?

    2011 Caddy 1.6 TDI. Air bag light is on and after plugging into computer it tells me there is no power to the airbag module, so checked all fuses and noticed one fuse missing, so after placing a fuse in the slot and starting the engine, it runs and then stops after 3 seconds after. I then removed the fuse but still does the same thing. Outside of the fact I shouldn’t have put a fuse in the slot in the first place! Anybody have any ideas please?
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    First posts normally go in introductions else you could get a free fix and we never see you again!!!

    Your car spec said 0, I added 04 Caddy from your other posts. Now I see you have changed this to 2011 Caddy 1.6 TDI so I've updated your signature.

    Starts and then stops after 3 seconds could be many things.

    You need to get your motor scanned (preferably with VAG-COM\VCDS) for any error codes logged in the ecu and post them, that will save a lot of guessing and check systems out.
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    OK, will do that and then post. Thanks for your trouble in replying.
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    You have no dash feed, that is where the immobiliser is.
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    With an immobiliser problem it will only start for a second or two, it depends on how long you count for.
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    Ok, have scanned the system now and can get no connection to any control units AT ALL.
    The fuse I put in was on mini slot No 7 and the wire coming off the back of it is a black/White tracer, with an earth.
    Also anybody know the fuse location for the OBD, please?
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    So this is the under dash fuse box not the one in the engine bay. The main area of the one in the engine bay is called SB and the big fuses on the front called SA, the one inside the cab is called SC. Oddly the fuse here start at 9 so what you see as 7 is actually SC15 and this provides an ignition live "Line 15" power to the air bag ECU via a black/white 0.5mm CSA wire that goes to a junction in the air bag harness where it splits off into two separate line 15 feeds to the air bag ECU (J234) and off the the K154 passengers side air bag deactivated warning light. The 16 pin diagnostic plug "U31" gets its switch live "line 15" at pin 1 from fuse SC14 on the green/red and the permanent live "Line 30" at pin 16 on the red/white from SC21, remembering that these fuses start at number 9.
    2003 Skoda Octavia VRS Estate. APR 98RON remap, APR R1 diverter valve, Jetex exhaust, K&N panel filter, 7.5x18 Alutec Monstr wheels with 225/40 18 Uniroyal Rainsport 3 tyres.
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    1988 Golf 2 GTI 16 valve, 2.2 with Weber Alpha injection
    1983 Golf 1 GTI 8 valve, 2 litre with Eurospec racing 42/36 head
    1972 1302LS auto 1641cc conversion

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    Dark was that day when Diesel conceived his grim engine that begot you, vile invention, more vicious, more criminal than the camera even, metallic monstrosity, bale and bane of our culture, chief woe of our Commonweal. How dare the Law prohibit hashish and heroin yet license your use, who inflate all weak inferior egos? Their addicts only do harm to their own lives: you poison the lungs of the innocent, your din dithers the peaceful, and on choked roads hundreds must daily die by chance-medley. Nimble technicians, surely you should hang your heads in shame. Your wit works mighty wonders, has landed men on the Moon, replaced brains by computers, and can smithy a "smart" bomb. It is a crying scandal that you cannot take the time or be bothered to build us, what sanity knows we need, an odorless and noiseless staid little electric brougham.

    W.H. Auden (1907-1973), A Curse:

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    OK, the dash does light up and works though?
    Is there a sequence for getting the immobiliser off?
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    As I've said With an immobiliser problem it will only start for a second or two, it depends on how long you count for. The immobiliser light will come on in the dash.

    VAG-COM\VCDS will only scan for error codes and systems it won't turn the immobiliser off.
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    The immobilser is not your problem, you know when that is acting as the engine stars and cuts, you have no power to the CAN BUS unit amongst others. Check the diagnostic plug for ignition live at pin 1 and permanent live at pin 16, be gentle probing the terminals.
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    2006 Polo GTI 1.8T, APR 95RON remap
    1988 Golf 2 GTI 16 valve, 2.2 with Weber Alpha injection
    1983 Golf 1 GTI 8 valve, 2 litre with Eurospec racing 42/36 head
    1972 1302LS auto 1641cc conversion

    Vile Invention

    Dark was that day when Diesel conceived his grim engine that begot you, vile invention, more vicious, more criminal than the camera even, metallic monstrosity, bale and bane of our culture, chief woe of our Commonweal. How dare the Law prohibit hashish and heroin yet license your use, who inflate all weak inferior egos? Their addicts only do harm to their own lives: you poison the lungs of the innocent, your din dithers the peaceful, and on choked roads hundreds must daily die by chance-medley. Nimble technicians, surely you should hang your heads in shame. Your wit works mighty wonders, has landed men on the Moon, replaced brains by computers, and can smithy a "smart" bomb. It is a crying scandal that you cannot take the time or be bothered to build us, what sanity knows we need, an odorless and noiseless staid little electric brougham.

    W.H. Auden (1907-1973), A Curse:

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