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    2011 Golf Mk VI DSG Petrol CAXA engine - likelihood of timing chain/cam belt issues?

    I'm buying a 2011 Golf Mk VI DSG Automatic Petrol CAXA engine with about 55K miles on the clock.

    Serviced regularly at an independent garage every year since 2013 at approx 7K intervals. Last service at 52K in 2019. Drives smoothly though I've only done a mile or two in a test drive. Dealer doing a DSG oil change now before handover to me as there's no record of one around 40K.

    I'm getting a bit worried as I've been reading reviews* that talk about reports of timing chain & cam belt failures leading to massive engine damage.

    How likely are these problems on the engine & transmission I'm buying?

    I will be doing only 4-6K miles a year. Mostly short trips everyday.

    * See for instance reports from the review on Honest John: https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/carbyca...-vi-2009/good/
    26-5-2013: On 2009 Golf 1.4TSi 122, original chain failed at 43k, 2nd change failed at 50k. Now on its 3rd chain, tensioner, and pulleys. Along with all the hydraulic tappets now replaced, all done under warranty.

    16-12-2012:
    44k mile 2009 Golf 1.4TSI 122 required a new cam chain, indicating that longlife oil service regime is inadequate.

    9-6-2012: Another report of dry clutch 7-speed DSG failure, this on a March 2009 1.4TSI with 34,000 miles. Quoted £4,000 for new transmission, but VW picked up more than half leaving reader with a £1,950 bill. (Admittedly this one isn't specifically about the timing/cam)

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    Another issue is the timing chain tensioner. It appears that at around 60,000 miles the timing chain tensioner fails, leaving slack in the timing chain allowing the chain to become loose and jump teeth. That can result in smashed valves and cylinder head damage.


    Also, the negatives of this model on the Honest John review (https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/carbyca.../golf-vi-2009/) state:

    7-speed dry clutch DSG problems. EA189 diesel emissions problems. Chain cam 1.4 TSI problems, especially Twincharger.

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    Manufacturer: VW, Date(s) Used: 07/2009-07/2013, Model: Golf/Variant/4Motion, Engine Code: CAXA, 90Kw, 122PS, 1.4 Ltr, 4 Cyls, Remarks: Turbocharged Stratified Injection (TSI) Bosch Motronic MED 17 Chain
    Manufacturer: VW, Date(s) Used: 07/2007-11/2012, Model: Golf/Variant/4Motion/R32, Engine Code: CAXA, 90Kw, 122PS, 1.4 Ltr, 4 Cyls, Remarks: Turbocharged Stratified Injection (TSI) Bosch Motronic MED 17 Chain

    Which DSG gearbox is fitted 6 speed or 7 speed?

    The 6 speed has the oil and filter changed every 40,000 miles, the 7 speed is a dry gearbox.
    2010 Golf GTD (170) CBBB, 5 Door, Shadow Blue (P6/D5Q), Transmission Code: KXZ, Flat Tyre Indicator, Basic Protection Pack + VCDS.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Keithuk View Post
    Which DSG gearbox is fitted 6 speed or 7 speed?.
    Where can I check this (without relying on seller)?

    Parker’s says this is a 7 speed but if a 7 speed is dry clutch as you say, it shouldn’t require a ‘DSG oil change’, should it?

    The seller (independent dealer with a good rating on Autotrader and google reviews) said he is doing a ‘DSG oil change’ as he can’t see records of one having been done at 40K - which is apparently recommended / required

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    Your new car has a timing chain and yes these are prone to problems IF the car does not get an oil change every 9300 miles. Your DSG box is the 7 speed dry plate type known as the DQ200, there is no oil filter or fluid that can be changed but the gear box oil itself can be changed and a special type is required to a avoid damage the the Mechatronic unit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crasher View Post
    Your new car has a timing chain and yes these are prone to problems IF the car does not get an oil change every 9300 miles. Your DSG box is the 7 speed dry plate type known as the DQ200, there is no oil filter or fluid that can be changed but the gear box oil itself can be changed and a special type is required to a avoid damage the the Mechatronic unit.
    Thanks Crasher.

    Is there some source where I can see the transmission codes eg LAQ(?) and the gear
    Box type eg DQ200?

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    Private message me your REG number, it will be a DQ200 series, otherwise known an an 0AM but there are dozens of individual codes for specific variations such as LAQ, LSS, MGL etc etc
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crasher View Post
    Private message me your REG number, it will be a DQ200 series, otherwise known an an 0AM but there are dozens of individual codes for specific variations such as LAQ, LSS, MGL etc etc
    have PM'ed you Crasher - thanks!

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    It is an MPH code box and shows Pr codes "G1C 7-speed automatic transmission" and "0EG Installation differentiation for twin-clutch gearbox DQ 200 Vehicle components"

    I have emailed you the full spec.
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