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    Clutch change

    Its slipped the odd time on my 2003 Bora 1.9 TDI but I don't drive aggressively so should last a few months.

    Is it wise to change the dual mass with the clutch change?
    2003 Bora 1.9 TDI-PD, ATD
    2011 Polo 1.2 TDI-CR CFWA

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    2003 Bora 1.9 TDI doesn't use the stupid Dual Mass Flywheel (DMF) avoid it like the plague, use the standard one.
    2010 Golf GTD (170) CBBB, 5 Door, Shadow Blue (P6/D5Q), Transmission Code: KXZ, Flat Tyre Indicator, Basic Protection Pack + VCDS.


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    So when was the fitting of the DMF stopped?

    We had a '99 reg Bora TDI which had a DMF. When it started slipping, we were offered a solid conversion kit for about 33% of the cost of a DMF but there were warnings about the dire effects a conversion kit can have on a gearbox.
    2003 Bora 1.9 TDI-PD, ATD
    2011 Polo 1.2 TDI-CR CFWA

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    It isn't so much when DMF stopped its when it started.

    All newer VAG engine have the DMF. If you want to continue with BMF then carry one.
    2010 Golf GTD (170) CBBB, 5 Door, Shadow Blue (P6/D5Q), Transmission Code: KXZ, Flat Tyre Indicator, Basic Protection Pack + VCDS.


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    But the standard flywheel does not dampen as the DMF does which is why they're fitted I presumed.

    Having said that, my old Rover 45 TD was a solid flywheel I understand.

    I suppose I should replace like for like when I have to change the clutch.
    2003 Bora 1.9 TDI-PD, ATD
    2011 Polo 1.2 TDI-CR CFWA

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    The front wheel drive 5 speed Bora TDI with the ATD engine exclusively used a 228mm Sachs DMF, 038 105 266 AQ. NOT changing the DMF when doing the clutch isn't just unwise, it is ****** stupid. This Sachs flywheel has actually been discontinued by Sachs but there are still plenty in stock.
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    Thanks Crasher!

    I presume the Sachs is the one to fit rather than LUK or Valeo?
    2003 Bora 1.9 TDI-PD, ATD
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    As far as I can tell, LUK do not offer one and Valeo.... well...
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    Can the solid flywheel type ruin the transmission?
    2003 Bora 1.9 TDI-PD, ATD
    2011 Polo 1.2 TDI-CR CFWA

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    It can make the box rattle at idle very badly and will also increase fuel consumption by around 2%.
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