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    Not a very good start.

    So the missus has just called and she's broken down. Apparently the engine check light came on, then some smoking and it felt like it was "running out of steam". AA sent a local agent out who reckons he's a VW Audi specialist and so far he's removed the inlet manifold and is checking around that area. She's sent me a WhatsApp vid and looks like he's investigating the spark plugs.
    I thought these engines were simple tech. Here's hoping it's a simple fix...

    2003 Beetle 1.6.
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    So, to add to the misery...
    Had the car a few weeks and it has now had as of this morning new plugs, leads, coil pack, temp sensor. Coolant level is fine but apparently it smokes loads before running on three cylinders. Once it's one three cylinders it stops smoking.
    Any ideas before I chuck it. Really didn't expect issues like this and that was the reason I chose a simple petrol engine one.
    2003 Beetle 1.6, Petrol

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    How long is a piece of string?

    You need to get your motor scanned (preferably with VAG-COM\VCDS) for any error codes logged in the ecu and post them, that will save a lot of guessing and check systems out.
    2010 Golf GTD (170) CBBB, 5 Door, Shadow Blue (P6/D5Q), Transmission Code: KXZ, Flat Tyre Indicator, Basic Protection Pack + VCDS.


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    The garage used three different scanners and all showed the same thing which was cylinders x misfire detected.
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    Garages should used a good generic scanner because of all the different vehicles they need to check.

    Post what error codes they show for this misfire?

    You need to get your motor scanned (preferably with VAG-COM\VCDS) for any error codes logged in the ecu and post them, that will save a lot of guessing and check systems out.
    2010 Golf GTD (170) CBBB, 5 Door, Shadow Blue (P6/D5Q), Transmission Code: KXZ, Flat Tyre Indicator, Basic Protection Pack + VCDS.


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    So here's the latest update with this ongoing saga.
    Took it to a local specialist VW breaker and they fitted a set of injectors. All was well for 260 miles and then today again, the smoking started followed by the misfire. Had a look myself and all seemed well. Checked all four plugs and they seem to be black with carbon. Cleaned the plugs and put it all back together and engine is purring again. Around 500ml of oil was burnt during today's smoking episode.
    The garage did a scan and it came up with:
    Fuel trim bank 1 system too rich P0172
    Evap emission system control P0441
    I'm going to try one more thing which is a new purge valve solenoid. If that doesn't work I'll probably sell / burn / throw it away. The missus really likes the Beetle and would probably prefer another.
    2003 Beetle 1.6, Petrol

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    That indicates what you suspect, that the EVAP solenoid is stuck open and the engine is sucking fumes from the tank.
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    I hope so. Thanks for the vote of confidence.
    2003 Beetle 1.6, Petrol

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    If you release the filler cap it should hiss and massively reduce the over fuelling but obviously this is only an emergency step.
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    Changed the purge valve today. Here's hoping it's fixed. Thanks all for the advice to date.
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