Error: start/stop sys.

oxfordvehiclediag

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Hi, recently fitted new clutch, flywheel, and EGR cooler to our 2013 Touran Sport 2.0 TDI (CFHC). Before, it had 3 permanent errors saying neutral position sensor. We replaced the sensor, not brand new but a genuine one and are 99% sure that it works. Car drives great, but still shows the error on the dash as soon as you come to a stop and put it in neutral. Interestingly, it doesnt show up straight away, you have to put it in neutral, release clutch, and then it comes up. Also, it now shows 2 errors as opposed to 3 prior to replacing all the parts. Can someone please advise?

I have full auto scan from VCDS, can post this if it will help.

Kind regards
J
 

oxfordvehiclediag

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no, is there a calibration process for this sensor?

I reset all DTC's with vcds, but the error came straight back. i didnt see it mentioned in the log when i did the scan after the reset though?
 

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On the ones I have done yes but I would need to check at work... on a later Tiguan I did VCDS did not have the help menu for this and I had to use the VAG system ODIS.
 

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First posts normally go in introductions else you could get a free fix and we never see you again!!!

Your engine code said CFH I've added the CFHC.

Manufacturer: VW, Date(s) Used: 05/2010-05/2015, Model: Touran, Engine Code: CFHC, 103Kw, 140PS, 2.0 Ltr, 4 Cyls, Remarks: Turbocharged Direct Injection Common Rail (TDI-CR) Timing belt 16v, ComfortLine, Cross, HighLine, TrendLine

You need to get your motor scanned (preferably with VAG-COM\VCDS) for any error codes logged in the ecu and post them, that will save a lot of guessing and check systems out.

Post the full VCDS log file in CODE tags?
 

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First posts normally go in introductions else you could get a free fix and we never see you again!!!

Your engine code said CFH I've added the CFHC.

Manufacturer: VW, Date(s) Used: 05/2010-05/2015, Model: Touran, Engine Code: CFHC, 103Kw, 140PS, 2.0 Ltr, 4 Cyls, Remarks: Turbocharged Direct Injection Common Rail (TDI-CR) Timing belt 16v, ComfortLine, Cross, HighLine, TrendLine

You need to get your motor scanned (preferably with VAG-COM\VCDS) for any error codes logged in the ecu and post them, that will save a lot of guessing and check systems out.

Post the full VCDS log file in CODE tags?

Hi Keith, will do shortly. its on my old laptop that we use for diagnostics.

Regards
J
 

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It is called the G701 but the workshop system shows bugger all about it apart from it being on the wiring diagram as having the same power feed as the DPF pressure sensor.
 

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As attached

View attachment Log-OV62 GFY TEST-WVGZZZ1TZDW036236-147050km-91372mi.txt

Code:
VCDS Version: 18.2.0.3 (x64)Data version: 20180212 DS287.0
www.Ross-Tech.com




VIN: WVGZZZ1TZDW03xxxx   License Plate: OV62 Gxx TEST
Mileage: 147050km-91372mi   Repair Order: 






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Chassis Type: 1T-VW36 (7N0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 10 15 16 17 18 19 25 2E 42 44 46 52 55 56 61 62
          72 77


VIN: WVGZZZ1TZDW03xxxx   Mileage: 147050km-91372miles


01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
18-Aux. Heat -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
61-Battery Regul. -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
 
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CFHC)       Labels:. 03L-906-018-CFF.clb
   Part No SW: 03L 906 018 NQ    HW: 03L 907 309 N
   Component: R4 2.0l TDI   H28 9977  
   Revision: 41H28---    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 0019003A042501080000
   Shop #: WSC 00742 210 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906018NQ 003005
   ROD: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906018GA_VW36.rod
   VCID: 0603201AB9272B7422-8052


5 Faults Found:
10085 - Neutral Gear Sensor 
          P15A1 00 [101] - Implausible Signal
          Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 254
                    Mileage: 147051 km
                    Date: 2020.06.16
                    Time: 10:18:16


                    Engine speed: 783.00 /min
                    Normed load value: 20.4 %
                    Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
                    Coolant temperature: 46 °C
                    Intake air temperature: 22 °C
                    Ambient air pressure: 990 mbar
                    Voltage terminal 30: 12.500 V
                    Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
                    Neutral position sensor: current transmission angle: -14.00 °
                    Neutral position sensor: adapted transmission angle: 1.00 °
                    Transmission neutral position sensor voltage: 1420 mV
                    selected gear-Bits 0-7: 0


10086 - Neutral Gear Sensor 
          P15A1 00 [101] - Implausible Signal
          Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 147051 km
                    Date: 2020.06.16
                    Time: 10:18:16


                    Engine speed: 783.00 /min
                    Normed load value: 20.4 %
                    Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
                    Coolant temperature: 46 °C
                    Intake air temperature: 22 °C
                    Ambient air pressure: 990 mbar
                    Voltage terminal 30: 12.500 V
                    Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
                    Neutral position sensor: current transmission angle: -14.00 °
                    Neutral position sensor: adapted transmission angle: 1.00 °
                    Transmission neutral position sensor voltage: 1420 mV
                    selected gear-Bits 0-7: 0


10087 - Neutral Gear Sensor 
          P15A1 00 [032] - Implausible Signal
          Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 4
                    Mileage: 147051 km
                    Date: 2020.06.16
                    Time: 10:21:04


                    Engine speed: 1882.00 /min
                    Normed load value: 99.6 %
                    Vehicle speed: 47 km/h
                    Coolant temperature: 55 °C
                    Intake air temperature: 21 °C
                    Ambient air pressure: 990 mbar
                    Voltage terminal 30: 12.920 V
                    Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
                    Neutral position sensor: current transmission angle: -14.00 °
                    Neutral position sensor: adapted transmission angle: 1.00 °
                    Transmission neutral position sensor voltage: 1420 mV
                    selected gear-Bits 0-7: 3


4891 - EGR Valve (N18) 
          P0403 00 [100] - Malfunction
          Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 147055 km
                    Date: 2020.07.23
                    Time: 10:53:28


                    Engine speed: 887.00 /min
                    Normed load value: 42.4 %
                    Vehicle speed: 5 km/h
                    Coolant temperature: 15 °C
                    Intake air temperature: 16 °C
                    Ambient air pressure: 1010 mbar
                    Voltage terminal 30: 14.920 V
                    Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
                    Air mass: actual value (mg/stroke): 392.7 mg/stroke
                    EGR Vacuum Regulator Solen.val.: activation: 15.00 %
                    EGR Solen.val.: actual value: 83.53 %
                    EGR valve: offset closed: -3.28 %
                    Actuator for high pressure EGR: status-Bits 0-7: 0
                    Actuator for high pressure EGR: status-Bits 0-7: 0
                    Actuator for high pressure EGR: status-Bits 0-7: 55
                    Actuator for high pressure EGR: status-Bits 0-7: 4
                    High press EGR actuator: actual unconditioned volt val: 1593.2 mV


4892 - EGR Valve (N18) 
          P0403 00 [096] - Malfunction
          Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 147051 km
                    Date: 2020.06.16
                    Time: 10:17:49


                    Engine speed: 927.50 /min
                    Normed load value: 22.4 %
                    Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
                    Coolant temperature: 50 °C
                    Intake air temperature: 22 °C
                    Ambient air pressure: 990 mbar
                    Voltage terminal 30: 12.540 V
                    Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
                    Air mass: actual value (mg/stroke): 348.5 mg/stroke
                    EGR Vacuum Regulator Solen.val.: activation: 15.00 %
                    EGR Solen.val.: actual value: 79.46 %
                    EGR valve: offset closed: -3.28 %
                    Actuator for high pressure EGR: status-Bits 0-7: 0
                    Actuator for high pressure EGR: status-Bits 0-7: 0
                    Actuator for high pressure EGR: status-Bits 0-7: 55
                    Actuator for high pressure EGR: status-Bits 0-7: 4
                    High press EGR actuator: actual unconditioned volt val: 1715.2 mV


Readiness: 0 0 0 0 1 


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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 BL    HW: 1K0 907 379 BL
   Component: ESP MK60EC1   H31 0152  
   Revision: 00H31001    
   Coding: 333B601609250600CC0D06E7901F6092310150
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 7DF14FF6E4F168AC73-8028


No fault code found.


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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels:| 5K0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 3AA 907 044 AG    HW: 3AA 907 044 AG
   Component: Climatronic   H03 0404  
   Revision: 00001K02    
   Coding: 0010004003
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatronic A01010
   ROD: EV_ClimaAutoBasis_VW36.rod
   VCID: 75E157D6D4C130EC3B-8020


No fault code found.


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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 937 087 R    HW: 5K0 937 087 R
   Component: BCM PQ35 H    021 0068  
   Revision: BE021001    
   Coding: 48180A388837F1E0408800C0500011644BF59008626DA520E480C7000049
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 4487FA12C79BD9647C-8010


   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1T2 955 119 A  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 03091  26  0512 
   Coding: 009795


   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
   Component: RLS 150912 05  54  0403 
   Coding: 0230ED


   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 7N0 951 171 A
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  002 0206 
   Coding: 000000


   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H05 1501 
   Coding: 000000


No fault code found.


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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J791)       Labels:| 3AA-919-475.clb
   Part No SW: 3AA 919 475 L    HW: 4H0 919 475 E
   Component: PARKHILFE PLA H06 0025  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 56261224101757
   Coding: 149201
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA2C000000000 002008
   ROD: EV_EPHVA2C000000000.rod
   VCID: 4487FA12CF9BD9647C-8010


No fault code found.


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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1T0-909-605.lbl
   Part No SW: 1T0 909 605 E    HW: 1T0 909 605 E
   Component: 02 AIRBAG VW8   022 0100  
   Revision: 02022000    Serial number: 003K4D07L4G2  
   Coding: 0012338
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 377D9DDE464D82FCE9-8062


   Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332QSME3D210E60E


   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342QSME3C21165AG


   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6352QSME08221D5AI


   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6362QSME08223D72F


No fault code found.


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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:| 5K0-953-569.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 507 BC    HW: 5K0 953 549 E
   Component: Lenks.Modul   008 0080  
   Revision: --------    Serial number:  90422LHU0001L
   Coding: 1082140000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSNGKUDS A05001
   ROD: EV_SMLSNGKUDS_A05.rod
   VCID: 72EB6CCAA5AF27D41E-8026


   Multifunction steering wheel control module: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 542 C    HW: 5K0 959 542 C  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-TAS  H31 0033 
   Serial number: 0030544             
   Coding: 820000


No fault code found.


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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 1T0 920 985 C    HW: 1T0 920 985 C
   Component: KOMBI         H05 0505  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 781F00
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04716
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW36.rod
   VCID: 39799BE6B859948C1F-806C


No fault code found.


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Address 18: Aux. Heat        Labels: 1K0-815-071.clb
   Part No: 7N0 963 271 E
   Component: Zuheizer        051 2940  
   Revision: 00051000    Serial number: 09024297000000
   Coding: 0000031
   Shop #: WSC 39239 001 1048576
   VCID: 366390DA41477BF4F2-8062


No fault code found.


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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 S    HW: 7N0 907 530 J
   Component: J533  Gateway H43 1632  
   Revision:   H43       Serial number: 070912F2000759
   Coding: 358003
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 408FF602D383C54458-8014


1 Fault Found:
00532 - Supply Voltage B+ 
            001 - Upper Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100001
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 82
                    Mileage: 147025 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2014.08.25
                    Time: 11:22:02




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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H05 0505  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03709
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09.rod
   VCID: 6ADB74AA8D7FEF14A6-803E


No fault code found.


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Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650)       Labels:. 5N0-035-342.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 035 342 F    HW: 5N0 035 342 F
   Component: SG EXT.PLAYER H18 0546  
   Revision: A1001003    Serial number: 7663429408    
   Coding: 010100
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 2A5BB4AA45FF2F1466-807E


No fault code found.


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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels:. 1K0-959-701-MIN3.clb
   Part No SW: 1T0 959 701 AF    HW: 1T0 959 701 AF
   Component: Tuer-SG         009 2122  
   Coding: 0168631
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 7BF541EE3AE5669C4D-802E


No fault code found.


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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
   Part No: 1K0 909 144 P
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 70     3305  
   Revision: 00H22000    
   Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
   VCID: 377D9DDE464D82FCE9-8062


1 Fault Found:
03803 - Steering Angle Sensor for Steering Aid 
            000 -  -  - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11100000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Time Indication: 0


             Freeze Frame:
                    Battery Volts: 12.6 V
                        PD
                    Temperature: 21.0°C
                    Count: 2
                    Steering Angle: 0.00°
                    Count: 0
                        SteerAng n.Init




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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels:. 1K0-959-702-MAX3.clb
   Part No SW: 1T0 959 702 S    HW: 1T0 959 702 S
   Component: Tuer-SG         009 2122  
   Coding: 0168887
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 489FEE223BB3FD0490-801C


No fault code found.


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Address 55: Headlight Range (J745)       Labels:. 5M0-907-357-V3.clb
   Part No SW: 5M0 907 357 F    HW: 7L6 907 357 C
   Component: AFS-ECU       H04 0111  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 038600000B000200
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_HeadlRegulVWAFSPt 002016
   ROD: EV_HeadlRegulVWAFSPt_VW32.rod
   VCID: 377D9DDE8E4D82FCE9-8062


   Left_headlamp_power_output_stage: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1T0 941 329 A  Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB


   Right_headlamp_power_output_stage: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1T0 941 329 A  Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB


No fault code found.
 
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I said: Post the full VCDS log file in CODE tags?

Not posing the log file separately as there are loads of error codes that won't fit in 1 reply.
 
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