Front Springs for Golf MK5

CLIVE744

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Hi Guys

Can anyone help please, I need to replace the front springs on my daughter's Golf MK5 Hatchback TDi year 2006.

I don't wnat to higher or lower the car or use performance springs. in other words I'm looking for bog standard springs.
Iv'e just been on the phone to the main agents and I'm looking at a price of £111.17 each. (19/05/2021)

Does anyone know a good place to shop for them and a part number would be great, as Iv'e read about springs turning out to be a different length and wire diameter to what's on the car even though the seller is saying they are oringinal size.

I guess at the end of the day I only want to do the job once and not have to take them back off because they are the wrong ones.

Again thanks to anyone who can advise
 

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If using aftermarket springs I will only use Suplex but at the moment they are awkward to find in the UK and you would need the OE part number to cross reference as all Suplex springs are OE matching; you would not believe the number of different front springs used on a Golf 5, just for basic front wheel drive models they are at least 20. The UK importer for Suplex is EAG in Leeds but again they would need the exact number which I can give you if you private message me the reg.
 

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The OE number for the spring is 1K0 411 105 DA (3 x red/1 x grey paint marks) and from a VW dealer these are £110.69. The Suplex number is 39279
 

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Thanks for the info Crasher, its much appreciated I'll start having a look on the net for prices, I've got to get the struts off yet so don't need them immediately.
How do you manage to get the part numbers, I know main agents don't always want to give that information out, if you can't answer I 'll understand but I'm grateful for your help.
 

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I/(we) am/(are) an independent VAG specialist garage and parts supplier, we have the dealer parts system which points to the exact part using the cars VIN (it is called FI Suggestion and it is not perfect) and an aftermarket cross reference system called Tec Doc which we use to identify the genuine part and then a suitable OE aftermarket alternative. These are both trade subscription based programs.
 

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If using aftermarket springs I will only use Suplex...

No single brand will be the best match for all OEM part numbers.

In the UK, I would look at Bilstein, Eibach, Kilen, KYB, and Sachs.

If Lesjofors, Optimal, and TRW were better distributed in the UK, I would look at them too.

Kilen and Lesjofors are the same spring, made in the same factory in Sweden. It's the most modern spring factory in Europe, and being Swedish no doubt some of the best quality springs on the market.

There is a huge amount of rebranding with aftermarket springs. You might find 30 to 40 brands that are being sold to replace (not necessarily match) a particular OEM part number...and there certainly won't be 30 to 40 different factories producing these springs.

If an aftermarket spring lists more than one OEM part number that it is being sold to replace, then it might not be an exact match to your spring, ie. the manufacturer thinks that it is close enough...but in many cases it could be quite different...hence all the stories you hear about ride heights being high after an aftermarket spring is fitted...although in many cases it could be caused by the buyer not correctly identifying the OEM part number for their springs.

Sometimes aftermarket spring manufacturers are sneaky...especially some of the smaller brands. They might sell the same spring in differently marked boxes, and mark just one OEM part number on each box. This is to trick potential buyers into thinking that this spring will match their OEM spring exactly. To avoid this situation, avoid smaller brands that don't list the specification of their springs, such as length, wire thickness, diameter, etc. Bigger brands that don't list the specification of their springs include Bilstein and Kilen/Lesjofors. However, unlike Kilen/Lesjofors, I doubt Bilstein actually make their own springs. This isn't necessarily a bad thing, but Kilen/Lesjofors are usually cheaper than Bilstein even though they are not inferior quality. In many cases, I suspect that Bilstein are simply rebranded Kilen/Lesjofors.

Quinton Hazell, SKF, Spidan, and Suplex appear to be the same springs, as the specifications are always identical. These appear to all be gknautomotive brands. I used to be a fan of gknautomotive springs, but in the past couple of years I've read about too many early breakages...often within the first 6,000 miles. I never used to hear about them breaking, so maybe they've outsourced the manufacturing of their once excellent springs to China? I've only recently seen Quinton Hazell and SKF springs come onto the market, so maybe that's a knee jerk reaction to the deterioration in the reputation of Spidan and Suplex...hence gknautomotive are desperately trying to recapture market share.

Below are some aftermarket online spring catalogues. gknautomotive being the best one for information.

gknautomotive online spring catalogue

kilen online spring catalogue

kyb online spring catalogue

lesjofors online spring catalogue

optimal-germany online spring catalogue

The Kilen and Lesjofors online spring catalogues are similar, as each Kilen spring has a matching Lesjofors springs and vice-versa.
 
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Suplex are an independent spring manufacturer and their products are to exact OE spec for each part number, it is the only aftermarket brand of spring I trust BUT after they closed their UK operation a few years ago, supply has been very difficult for garage use as the UK importer has low stocks and are too slow to deliver. If a big operation like ECP took on Suplex it would be great.
 
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