On safe , my word!, followed guide main dealer new key , dealer unable to code key recommend new immobiliser is this within the cluster , could the cluster be repaired does it work ? Touran 2007 costing me a fortune.
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Thanks for taking an interest WVGZZZ1TZ8W072416 the cost of the cluster is beyond what I can afford and in any case it’s on back order with no expectation of a delivery any time soon , the only alternative as I see it is a cluster repair but I am not sure if these repairs work , as the mileage is only 8900 ish I dont want to swap out the cluster for a used cluster etc Yo !!
The cluster, 1T0 920 964 A Z02, may not be just on back order, it is probaly obsolete. What happened? How did the main dealer get the car?
ACTronics may be able to help but you would need to go through one of their agents. Something that bothers me is a faulty dash is highly unusual, this fault is usually the ignition lock barrel reader coil; do you know the fault code number?
Please post the full car VCDS scan as a .txt file and include the VIN. For the main dealer to misdiagnose a 1T problem would not surprise me one bit, most of their techs were in infant school when it went out of production.
Log-SB57VEO-WVGZZZ1TZ8W072416-13880km-8624mi.txt
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Wednesday,12,February,2025,21:16:45:51495
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 24.7.0.0 (x64) HEX-V2 CB: 0.4643.4
Data version: 20240715 DS356.3
www.Ross-Tech.com
VIN: WVGZZZ1TZ8W072416 License Plate: SB57VEO
Mileage: 13880km-8624mi Repair Order:
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Chassis Type: 1T (1K0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 18 19 25 42 44 46 52 56
VIN: WVGZZZ1TZ8W072416 Mileage: 13880km-8624miles
01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: Malfunction 0010
16-Steering wheel -- Status: Malfunction 0010
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
18-Aux. Heat -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: Malfunction 0010
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
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Address 01: Engine Labels: 03G-906-016-BKC.clb
Part No SW: 03G 906 021 MM HW: 03G 906 021 AN
Component: R4 1,9L EDC G000SG 0511
Revision: --H07--- Serial number: VWX7Z0G83NQ16M
Coding: 0000072
Shop #: WSC 01324 758 00200
VCID: 76B5F1D674CBAFCA75F-8022
VINID: 9E65EAAAA064A889C01C2101187F32DAF6
4 Faults Found:
005488 - Engine Start Blocked by Immobilizer
P1570 - 000 - - MIL ON
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 11110000
Fault Priority: 1
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 13885 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 00:01:53
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 168 /min
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Load: 0.0 %
Voltage: 11.70 V
Bin. Bits: 00101100
Bin. Bits: 11000000
(no units): 0.0
012547 - Motor for Intake Manifold Flap (V157)
P3103 - 000 - Malfunction - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Time Indication: 0
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 0 /min
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Load: 0.0 %
Voltage: 5.09 V
Bin. Bits: 11001110
Torque: 0.0 Nm
Torque: 351.4 Nm
001649 - Cylinder 1 Glow Plug Circuit (Q10)
P0671 - 000 - Electrical Fault - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 13885 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 00:00:02
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 0 /min
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Load: 0.0 %
Voltage: 12.01 V
Bin. Bits: 00101100
Temperature: 1.8°C
Bin. Bits: 00110000
001651 - Cylinder 3 Glow Plug Circuit (Q12)
P0673 - 000 - Electrical Fault - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 13885 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 00:00:02
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 0 /min
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Load: 0.0 %
Voltage: 12.01 V
Bin. Bits: 00101100
Temperature: 1.8°C
Bin. Bits: 00110000
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0
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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AC HW: 1K0 907 379 AC
Component: ESP FRONT MK60 0101
Revision: 00H11001
Coding: 0021190
Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
VCID: 73B3C8C267B9BAE2521-8026
1 Fault Found:
00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 1K0-820-047.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 820 047 FT HW: 1K0 820 047 FT
Component: Climatic PQ35 141 0909
Revision: 00141027 Serial number: 00000000000000
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 7BA3E0E24FE9F2A20A1-802E
1 Fault Found:
00532 - Supply Voltage B+
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded
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Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels:. 3C0-937-049-30-M.lbl
Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 AH HW: 3C0 937 049 AH
Component: Bordnetz-SG H54 2202
Revision: 00H54000 Serial number: 00000007610139
Coding: 00890F2100040F0047120C000000000000087B075C000100000000000000
Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
VCID: 6FBBC4B20B919E02B69-803A
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 2K2 955 119 C Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
Component: Wischer 150102 021 0501
Coding: 00038805
Shop #: WSC 01324
1 Fault Found:
00446 - Function Limitation due to Under-Voltage
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100010
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 232
Mileage: 0 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2005.09.13
Time: 31:63:63
Freeze Frame:
OFF
Voltage: 9.45 V
OFF
OFF
OFF
OFF
OFF
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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 1T0-909-605.lbl
Part No SW: 1T0 909 605 D HW: 1T0 909 605 D
Component: 04 AIRBAG VW8 021 0100
Revision: 02021000 Serial number: 003B9D06672E
Coding: 0012340
Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
VCID: 363531D6344BEFCAB5F-8062
Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332QSME40044C3FH
Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342QSME4004173D8
Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6352QSME3B013E69O
Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6362QSME3B4221315
1 Fault Found:
00532 - Supply Voltage B+
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
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Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 BC HW: 1K0 953 549 BC
Component: Lenksäulenmodul 636 0070
Coding: 0000042
Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
VCID: 74B1CBDE62B7BDDA4BB-8020
1 Fault Found:
00446 - Function Limitation due to Under-Voltage
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
Part No SW: 1T0 920 964 A HW: 1T0 920 964 A
Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VDD 1212
Revision: V0002000 Serial number: VWX7Z0G83NQ16M
Coding: 0003401
Shop #: WSC 00835 210 91894
VCID: 34310BDE2237FDDA8BB-8060
1 Fault Found:
00446 - Function Limitation due to Under-Voltage
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100010
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 10
Reset counter: 232
Mileage: 13885 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 20:57:48
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Address 18: Aux. Heat Labels: 1K0-815-071.clb
Part No: 1K0 815 071 T
Component: Zuheizer 050 2504
Revision: 00050000 Serial number: 09009839000000
Coding: 0000011
Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
VCID: 363531D6344BEFCAB5F-8062
No fault code found.
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Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels:. 1K0-907-530-V3.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 L HW: 1K0 907 951
Component: J533 Gateway H07 0052
Revision: H07 01 Serial number: 220907F2001311
Coding: E9801F06000A028003
Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
VCID: 303907CED62FC1FAEF3-8064
No fault code found.
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Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
Part No SW: 1T0 920 964 A HW: 1T0 920 964 A
Component: IMMO VDD 1212
Revision: V0002000 Serial number: VWX7Z0G83NQ16M
Shop #: WSC 00137 211 56823
VCID: 34310BDE2237FDDA8BB-8060
1 Fault Found:
01176 - Key
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 192
Mileage: 13885 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 20:57:48
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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels:. 1K0-959-701-MIN3.clb
Part No SW: 1T0 959 701 D HW: 1T0 959 701 D
Component: Tuer-SG 006 1202
Coding: 0000565
Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
VCID: 38293FEE3E5F19BAA73-806C
No fault code found.
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Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 1Kx-909-144-G2V3.clb
Part No: 1K2 909 144 M
Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.071 H08 1901
Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
VCID: 363531D6344BEFCAB5F-8062
2 Faults Found:
00003 - Control Module
005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation - Intermittent
00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
000 - -
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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels:. 1K0-959-433-MIN.clb
Part No: 1K0 959 433 CP
Component: KSG 0401
Coding: 80C802087F2D8405485B030010CC
Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
VCID: 0059970E260F917A5F3-8054
Subsystem 1 - Component: Sounder n.mounted
Subsystem 2 - Component: NGS n.mounted
Subsystem 3 - Component: IRUE n.mounted
1 Fault Found:
00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded
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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels:. 1K0-959-702-MIN3.clb
Part No SW: 1T0 959 702 D HW: 1T0 959 702 D
Component: Tuer-SG 006 1202
Coding: 0000564
Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
VCID: 392F3AEA055500B258D-806C
No fault code found.
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Address 56: Radio Labels: 1K0-035-1xx-56.clb
Part No: 1K0 035 186 AD
Component: Radio GR0 034 0033
Revision: 0003404S Serial number: VWZ2Z2G3277423
Coding: 0020200
Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
VCID: 6889AFAE2E7F493AF73-803C
1 Fault Found:
00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:13, VBatt start/end: 14.0V/12.0V)-----------you have a huge bunch of low voltage fault codes there, 11.7v is not enough, nor is 168 rpm cranking speed, needs 250+ I think.
main one that'll stop it running is the 01176, low signal, that could be from low volts, or the reader coil, there's no specific cluster fault logged other than low voltage.
main one that'll stop it running is the 01176, low signal, that could be from low volts, or the reader coil, there's no specific cluster fault logged other than low voltage.
The dealer tech who did that job is either inexperienced, an idiot or doesn't care, that is classic reader coil failure. A few weeks ago, I had a Golf 5 (same thing electrically) recovered out of a local Kwik Fit as it developed this problem during an MOT an understandably it is out of their comfort zone. It already had a new key and coil previously but you can't buy that anymore, only the barrel and coil matched to the key the car was built with. All you SHOULD have to do it remove the barrel (very easy, literally plug and play) and push in a new barrel and it will go. The problem is the only way to get a barrel and reader coil is genuine VW and they are a Vehicle Intelligent Part which has to be ordered and paid for up front and then takes around two weeks to come from Germany. Part number 107 905 855 CF and MUST be ordered to the VIN, costs £297.60 inc.
Many thanks to “Crasher” his knowledge and experience makes ANYTHING he suggests extremely valuable . My vehicle is being examined by a diagnostic expert in this area and of course I will update this post on the outcome . Word of advice to those purchasing from the wide array of OBD readers IMO it’s a science in itself analysing the outcome data and It’s not an exact science . Also dormant cars especially older ones are at risk of needing electrical parts that have become obsolete or extortionate and it’s the breakers yard to MAYBE save the day . Happy motoring !! My head hurts
Yes, many VAG cars over 10 years old are now at risk of being unusable due to critical genuine only electronic components being obsolete and used ones imposible to code in.
To provide more detail of potential costs and pressures in taking on a dormant vehicle, new battery , two seized locking nuts, new wipers required , four new tyres required , had the vehicle mobile scanned told revealed immobiliser “key” code was not the key, more details to follow, due to the scan “trusted “ the local main dealer to be capable of coding the key which I paid a fortune for , eventually they allocated the fault to the immobiliser and recommended replacing a part they must have known was obsolete and left me up the proverbial creek , and they charged me a fortune in labour in doing so , very very luckily the great guy who was transporting the vehicle to the main dealer knew another great guy , a mechanic , whose nephew was a diagnostic expert and he achieved what the main dealer could not .
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